Mar 26, 2015

SENATOR RAND PAUL TOO HARSH ON DRUG PUSHERS? DISCUSSES CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS

 

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sometimes people ask you know they say will come one person make any difference

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at all and sometimes I wonder that even in washington

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by taiwan the reasons I'm ears cuz have you seen

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just introduced name I was a scanning online about an article he had written

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that was complimentary or some other things we're trying to do in

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so I tend my city my staff call him up policy if you'd like us to come to do is

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say

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hambre shaping close we're glad to be here this morning

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cried canard got outta prison

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%ah couple months are actually the same month I was born

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which was a long time ago 1963

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and the reason clock canard went to prison is that

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his crime was that he was trying to gin enroll in Mississippi southern

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and at that time it was very difficult for a black man or woman

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to enroll the second time he tried to enroll they

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plan and liquor on him he didn't drink and gave him a six hundred dollar fine

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anybody here a match in what six hundred dollars was like in 1963 if you are poor

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in mississippi

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one thing led to another and he declared bankruptcy

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he tried to enroll a third time I was arrested and OLEDB either

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to local police but when he's a tries to third time

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he's declared bankruptcy in any goes by his farm to pick up some chicken feed

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twenty-five dollars was a chicken feed you know what happens to him

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he's arrested you know what kinda prison term is given

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seven years in prison for stealing 25 Notre chicken feed which really was he

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is he was on his land

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that the bank was repossessing people's life can spiral out of control from a

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six hundred dollar fine

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thomas wolfe talks about this in his book or a young guy goes enemies care

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has to pay a hundred dollars to get his car out of hock in its 455 when they

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close the door

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the window he said fifth in line his life spirals out of control when he

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tries to get his car back that weekend to go to work

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those of us who have jobs in our lives fairly privilege lives

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don't know what it's like to have to pay fines

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and then pay penalties on top of Iran's

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and how someone's life can spiral out of control because is this

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so %ah this was nineteen sixty-three in a lot of things have improved since then

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we've gotten rid of segregation du jour segregation by law

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but we still have a problem in our country that is somewhat like

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segregation but also someone like their two systems

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or as Martin Luther King said in 1967 there to america's

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there's one america that believes in life liberty and the pursuit of

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happiness

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but there's another America that is witness to a

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and daily disgrace a lack a lack of hope and despair

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why because like like can are there still people in our society that are

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being hounded by far lines hounded by this and that several cities in Missouri

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over a third of their budget is gotten by farms

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in for sinners 21,000 people last year there were thirty-one thousand arrests

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so I tell people isn't just about what happened this year

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it's about this building up its about this gradual increase

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I call it an undercurrent on the ease in our country

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there still are to america's most people here part of the america that does

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believe in can believe in life liberty and pursuit of happiness those who get a

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college education those who get an education no matter the color of your

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skin

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you are party America can live the American dream

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but there are many people who are so it's a lack of education

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but it's also our criminal justice system as I learn more about the

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criminal justice system

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I've come to believe and that it is something that is going to keep the STU

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America separate there are so many things one after another

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there are I think I'm just making it unfair for people

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if you look at new york city New York City 500

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billion dollars in five than a third of the budget 25 to 30 percent to budget

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is done by fines in New York City what reason do we have

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to have politicians telling the police for them to take someone down

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for selling a cigarette is not taxed couldn't give him a ticket

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can we say move on under a lot of other ways and saying

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and I don't blame the place I blame the politicians and politicians write these

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rules

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so we can change the rules at any minute so I've said I want to be part of

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changing some others rules

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house at the white house last week and met with the president

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pain I don't agree on a lot of stuff but on criminal justice we do

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so there's about 8 republicans in a democrat's the ones who think that we

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should start changing some of these laws

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for laws it bothers me the most is something call civil forfeiture

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civil forfeitures where the government can take your stuff

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whether they're convicted you a crime or not I think this turns justice on his

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head

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so I think that most of our judicial system for most who believe it

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is that you're innocent until proven guilty civil forfeiture

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they are

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and if there's one thing I can change I want to reinforce that in our judicial

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system you are in a search until proven guilty

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the problem is is it was civil forfeiture is the opposite

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so give me a couple other examples Cristos or a los is a

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family I in philadelphia their teenage son sold forty dollars or the illegal

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drugs

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of the back porch the government took their house

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the victim then barricaded themselves like how are we making anything better

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when we take the house

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maybe the house is a stabilizing force in the family made his grandma's house

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and kids fifteen years old why would we take grandma's house

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why we take the family's house based and

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not even a and not even a conviction on an accusation and the child who doesn't

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own the house

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its way outta control and it's happening in various venues

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but if you look at the washington post 27 race series on this over the last yr

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six months or so is predominately african-american is predominately

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Hispanic

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or if you wanna see one common denominator is predominantly people live

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in poverty

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it unfair gonna stop I think we can stop it this is something that the president

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I completely agree on

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so we have legislation that would change it changes the presumption

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it says that you will be innocent until they prove you guilty and they cannot

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take your stuff

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unless you've been proven guilty give you an example some other things in

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civil forfeiture that we've had problem with

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in civil forfeiture they took a 1.5 million dollar

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I motel in in New Jersey why

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because about 10 people I'd stayed there over 14 years have been caught selling

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drugs

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10 people out of two hundred thousand people and they took the hotel

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blame when they look at it as a program with people who take your stuff get to

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keep it

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and they get to keep the proceeds is a poor first incentive for the government

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to want to take your stuff

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interestingly about the same amount of people car for drugs and other hotels in

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the same area

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but they didn't take them because they had leans against the hotel this hotel

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having to be paid for

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so the government actually looks for things that they can confiscate

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that are already paid for he

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increased I think I lost my volume can anybody help clear that with the

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are with the audio-visual alright love somebody look into it okay yeah I think

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that's all I've got naturally to give yes lol

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others in civil forfeiture

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hairs others in civil forfeiture there are a lot of other things that we need

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to fix in our society

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one of them is a something we call mandatory minimums

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what mandatory minimums do is say that if you commit an infraction

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say you have to serve a mandatory sentence almost 15 years

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sometimes life in prison I'll give you an example Wheldon Angeles has a

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24-year-old kidney sold three hundred dollars for the marijuana

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he got a mandatory sentence fifty-five years

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that's outrageous fifty-five years in prison for songs where are the man

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marijuana you can kill somebody in Kentucky

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and be eligible for parole in 12 years something is wrong here

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to come down there us there's a racial outcome to this

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I don't think there's a racial intention but I tell people that I think they're

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not looking if they don't think

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30 incarceration problem in our country is not skewed towards one race

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I don't think is purposeful but I do think it is

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actual and it's real we should do something about fifty-five years in

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prison for selling marijuana

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timothy tyler was a guy

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23 years ago he was 23 years old

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he was I am a deadhead doing lst

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things there you shouldn't do sometime in college don't do that

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but the thing is is for that car I'm

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I'll sending similar listings in the mail and for using LSD

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he get life in prison he's now 46 years old he's been in jail for 23 years

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this is this is just out of control in and say

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Joe Lockwood 31 years old

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she was selling our writing a false prescription for self

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offer more tab work as 95 percent Allah on five percent I doxie coda

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so 90 tabs in the way it is actually a legal drug they put her in jail based on

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the way to the whole drive she's in jail for 15 years for writing a prescription

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for sale she was an addict

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letter and treatment punisher do something to your

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but don't put people in jail for fifteen years this is all done to mandatory

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minimums

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I personally think judges should get more discretion motion judges Republican

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and Democrat are balking at this there say

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give us discretion to hear what the young person did listen to the facts on

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it listen to other their remorseful listen to whether or not they can work

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listen to whether or not we could have another means other than incarceration

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in 1980 there were three hundred thousand kids in our America

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didn't have a father because her father was imprisoned there's now

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two million kids in America without a father prison for those using family

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structure is good

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they perform new were for families with a mother and father around

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we need to be for fixing the criminal justice system

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if we look at mandatory minimums

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civil forfeiture and then we look at other problems we have in our society

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one of the problems we have as employment so as republicans were going

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on saying we don't want people coming away on welfare longer transition from

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welfare to a job

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they look back at this and people so I much just to get a job I was a convicted

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felon

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I did a felony wells 21 on for years old still no way of higher

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me there has to be a way to figure out how we can get people back to work

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for

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a friend of mine's brother

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grew marijuana plants University of Kentucky's thirty years ago

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he's a convicted felon PS to check the box every time he goes to

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look for a job and he can vote

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so if we really want to get people back integrated into society if we want to

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get people who are not prominently

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unable to work and permanently on welfare we have to learn how to figure

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and figure out how to expunge their records

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so Cory Booker I put together a bill we call to redeem act

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from what it does is it takes on these minor felonies

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mostly drug possession and some drug sale and says if you

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been tarnished you're outta jail use pagers yes to society

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and there's a server time you should get ready Rackers

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not televised problem at all non-violent crime the index fund directors you can

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get back to work in the bill also

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the bill that I have with Cory Booker he gets rid of solitary confinement for

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teenagers

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why wouldn t know years in solitary confinement I don't know

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but I can tell you one story that horrified me in this was in the new

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yorker a couple months ago

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Khalif routers a young black man sixteen-years-old

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in the box he's picked up an excuse to cry

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I have no idea whether he committed a crime or not but I can tell you that

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it's a crime against

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what America stands for that he was sent to riker's

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for three years in solitary confinement not all time with many trips to salter

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environment for three years in prison any was never tried

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have these people taught her the sixth amendment they not her the speedy trial

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cally for our tried to commit suicide three times

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now what happened to him in riker's but it certainly wasn't good

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it certainly wasn't fair and it certainly was an American to keep a guy

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locked up with no trial for three years and we ought to change it

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trying to go out with Cory Booker we take some records and we let them be

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expunged after %ah

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when show up when you go to get work we also get rid of solitary confinement for

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juveniles

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I also think that part of the problem losing your

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building an empire map and Wells Road

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is because we have a lot of things felonies that we can make misdemeanors

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to have another bill we call the reset billowing take minor felonies

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mostly non all non-violent a mostly drug felonies and we make a misdemeanor

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process okay we're %ah says legal or just sayin

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that it'll be a misdemeanor you will never lose your right to vote

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and you will never lose your opportunity to work by having it permanently on your

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record

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these are things that we do I think we can radically transform our country.

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so we have something on civil forfeiture mandatory minimums

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expungement and then resetting your record

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all these things I think will help with criminal justice

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and will help with the people who live in the to america's

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maybe for the people who don't feel like they are open to a life liberty and the

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pursuit of happiness or don't feel like they're being treated justly

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that undercurrent of monies s out this out there

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maybe those people start to feel part of the American dream

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and will be ambitious and will try to succeed like the rest of us

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while the final things is we've had a I was first criminal justice reform bills

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without a lot of discussion in our country about

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are voting rights and whether people are excluded or not exclude in what we need

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to do to make it better

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i think is a good thing is is that more people though it more minorities voted

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at a higher percentage even then why it's

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in Mississippi in other states last time around we've come a long way

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but a number one thing precluding people from voting our country

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is a felony conviction anti-bill with Harry Reid that would restore federal

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loading

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rights if you serve your time for a nonviolent felony and your

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you're behaving yourself you get your voting rights back because I think it's

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hard for people to feel part of the America

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that how's life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is they can't vote

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so we want people to be a work we want people out the owners though

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how do we protect all these things and how we make it a better more united

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America

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I think we have to pay more attention to the Bill of Rights the bill Wright was

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there to protect all accts

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I tell people the bill right isn't necessarily for the prom queen

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although will apply to her also not necessarily for the high school

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quarterback to college quarterback

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those who are popular among you always 25 is for the least popular among you

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is for those who might have unorthodox ideas it's precisely for minorities

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and you can be a minority because the shade if your scam

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for you can be a minority because the shade if your ideology

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you can be them a minority because you're african-american Hispanic

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but you can also be a minority because you're an evangelical Christian

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there's all kinds reasons that you can have minority opinions

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that need to be protected the bill right should do this

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we have instances in the last year to you were always let down our guard

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and I'll give you a couple examples we have something out America called

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indefinite detention this means that an American citizen

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could be indefinitely place in prison and sent to Guantanamo Bay forever

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without a trial and I had this debate with another senator on the floor I said

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really you could sense an American citizen the Guantanamo Bay with no trial

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forever

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in the city after dangerous pass it on

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pegs the question doesn't who gets to decide who's dangers and who's not

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dangerous

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and who should be afraid

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us anybody think that you might wanna be afraid if you're jewish have people ever

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seen any condo

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animus towards the Jewish people anybody ever think there was any animus towards

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african-americans our country

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anybody ever think there's been an animus toward any kind of minority in

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our country ought to be concerned

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about incarceration without a trial

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and the answer is and even from this president I don't think his presence

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gonna round up

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people based on their race I don't think he will do that and that's what he said

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when he signed the legislation he said but I'm a good man

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and I will never do this I'm not questioning whether the president a good

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man

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I'm questioning whether you are a law on the books that requires our leaders to

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be good people

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there have been times in our history we've let down our guard

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Madison wrote about this from Madison said

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if the government were comprised have angels we wouldn't need these laws

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b5 government will comprise two angels you know wouldn't matter if there's a

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potential for bias

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the remember the times when you didn't get to process

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remember the times when they're worth group in our country like the

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into japanese-americans during World War Two it didn't get to process were

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incarcerated without trials that's why we have these rules

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it's not about this president about the next president or the president

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thereafter

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we also now are doing something that I think really goes against justice

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and the ideas and justice we're collecting all other phone records

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everyone in your phone records is being collected and stored

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every cell phone record probably in America they won't tell us

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but in all likelihood the vast majority phone records are being collected

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but if you look at the warranty doesn't have your name on it

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the Fourth Amendment says they're supposed to have your name first post to

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specify who you are what you did what they want to look at

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know they go to a judge in ass for probable cause but you want to warrant

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says

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that has all your phone records says horizon on

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I'll knowing my name mister horizon

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and I don't think that you can write one single wharton get the Wreckers have $20

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million people fifty million people's records

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supposed to be individualized in fact we fought a revolution over this

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in the revolution call these things receive assistance they were generalized

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warrants that's why we wrote the fourth amendment yeah had to specify the person

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can specify the possible crime problem calling it happen judge

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you should be worried about this was the government's a

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trust us were good people will never look at your actors

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was already did a couple intelligence folks who were looking at their wife's

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boyfriends record so I

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people are tempted to look at your records

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and people are perfect condition collection wreckers coach to get

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terrorist

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if we don't like to miss records yet just get a war and if you've got john

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smith and he's talking to five people in Pakistan your work for the next five

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people on their document and more people

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get another warrant if there's a rapist in DC

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and you don't see him run into a house the police don't go break the door down

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if they think they're inside they stand at the door

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they call a judge history in the morning and they get a warrant

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we need these constitutional protections think about what happened in the

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nineteen sixties

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think about how Martin Luther King's phone was tapped think about how

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hundreds of people in the civil rights movement have their phones tapped

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think about many people protested against the war had their phone jack

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you have to have these protections not because one particularly bad person

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government

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because there is the potential forbade people some day to take charge

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government criminal justice

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was a lack of criminal justice it's not a black or white problem it's not a

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black or brown problem what it is is is a poverty problem

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but the thing is we have to be careful to make sure that the bill right

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applies to every individual if there's one thing I want to get across to you is

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we have to defend the Bill of Rights

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I think there are two other areas in which there are two america still

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and where we need to try to figure out how we can united to america's

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the others in education if you're here release date or you're visiting

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and you went to school you went to college or you're working

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you succeeded you wanna hear your part in the Americas can I am

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field goal after the American dream Life Liberty pursuit of happiness

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but if you didn't get into school or you want a crummy high school or college

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junior high

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you know here meanwhile the other america is in fact the the statistics

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are startling if you look at graphic to grab who went to school

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who who waded in had their kids after they were married in one school

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is like night and day here in here so there are two different america's

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how do we equalize education education is the great equalizer

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we fought for brown versus the board in the fifties we got the schools together

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we got integration

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but there still is a lack of equality in the schools is the best way to put it I

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went to public schools with a

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calculus in high school physics chemistry to biology to a ride and Adam

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in physiology in high school

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tried a great public school my kids have gone public high school

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but all public schools are not creating people in and there still was a problem

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and a lot of the problem I think can only be fixed if we allow more

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innovation means less rules from washington

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allow more competition allow people to choose which school they go to any to

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the cities and there's a better school in the suburbs

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let people drive out to the suburbs as they want to go to that school

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school choice will allow schools to be equal the right now I think our concern

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is that the people making decisions on the educational establishment and not

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the parents

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but if you watch the movie Waiting for Superman I defy you to watch a movie and

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not have it here come out here I

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looking at the people trying to get into a good school and how these parents are

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really

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you know doing anything they can to win the lottery to get their kid to go to a

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good school

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we have to figure out how to make education equality

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cross the border and finally what we have to do is we have to figure out how

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to get

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I economic copy quality I'm not talking about some sort of equality about

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commandant more about equality of opportunity

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I think that we have to look at something new

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we've tried passing money outlook and look in my state appalachians got money

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for sixty years

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we tax or by the country and then we Senate appalachia

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fan or appalachia still 40 us we have pockets of poverty in lawful

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just as poor as they ever were the problem is if you give me the money and

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asked me to give it to somebody

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people in government don't know who to give it to so we have to John Smith

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resale here he will open a business we don't john smith er merry spence's good

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opening a business

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the marketplace does though every day when you go out you spend your money in

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a restaurant or a wal-mart or target or Kmart

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here spending your money and you're voting on which businesses will succeed

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so I'd say we want to stimulate Detroit to Troy Scott 20 percent unemployment

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thousands of acres of abandoned housing sure to do something for Detroit why

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don't we dramatically cut the taxes for Detroit

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jack kemp was the first one to talk a lot about this he called Amanda fries

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sounds

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I call on economic freedom zones what we do is we take tax cut

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areas that have high unemployment slow growth in hyde

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I incidence of poverty and then what we do is dramatically cut taxes not a

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little bit

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week almost completely wiped out federal taxes

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saying have more money so in Detroit it would be a 1.3 billion dollar tax cut

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for Baltimore be in nine hundred million dollar tax cut over 10 years

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so that nineteen and why does this work better

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than a government stimulus see we tried a government stimulus

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we did about 45 years ago we gave a bunch of money almost a true in about

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eight hundred billion dollars we gave out

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we didn't know who to give it to so when they divided up is about four hundred

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thousand dollars per job but if you give it back to the people who are already in

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like in Baltimore even a ball crush pockets of poverty

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door businesses they're they're succeeding you don't give it to the

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brand new person

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you don't know whether be good business cute person already in business now are

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more people

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process their money to begin with a armed so give them back more their money

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but in a dramatic fashion

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so we can stimulate to cities and get the city's growing again

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what i'm saying is think outside the box cuz what we've been doing ass and then

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walking

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I think there are ways that we can have criminal justice in our country

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I think there's ways we can have the quality of

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education our country and I think we can have a quality the economic opportunity

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but if we keep doing the same thing over and over again

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that's the definition of insanity if you expected numbers all

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I truly think that the two americas a martin luther king talked about can come

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back together

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and I think it's imperative that we do it because I've seen and felt this

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under Colonel Denise top 10 Ferguson have been a Chicago and Detroit a lot of

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places with a great deal of poverty

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some %uh this is government governments done the wrong thing sometimes

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politicians

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pleasers trying to do their job for the most part for the politicians

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have done a bad job creating criminal justice we need to try to fix that we

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need to fix our educational system

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but we can't just let the establishment say we're not going to ever change

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that's what's been going on for thirty years now and do we allow innovation

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will get better

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but finally we have to make that debate or have the debate

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about who best spends money is that

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other politicians smart enough to know how to spend it or should we send it

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back to Baltimore

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sure we have it if we want to make Baltimore richer leave more money im

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Baltimore can we make Baltimore richer have more jobs

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by not sending it to washington in the first place I'm a big believer in

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freedom

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I'm a big believer in human ingenuity I'd say forgive power and freedom back

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to the people

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will see success like we haven't seen in a long time

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election introduce our moderators Q&A

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Germany forties Morehouse man and we're really excited I'm here

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boosting risk thank you thank you thank you thank you very much

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police say

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go ahead Q&A will just sit around Paul

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I just saw I was refreshing to hear him talk on so many different

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topics obviously that us rollin involves the art of your life

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here and and elsewhere our first question

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I'll to Nepal the fruit the federal government provide incentives for

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businesses

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higher X offenders yeah I think

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the best way to have an incentive is to get rid of the record basically so

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expunging the Wreckers i think is one of the best place to try get ex-offenders

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back to work

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arm and I think pretty

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what about millions of people yet is as many as 5 million people lost the right

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to vote

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but there somewhere in that neighborhood who have also are

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having difficulty getting employment and so if you allow people to expunge your

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record

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that we some exceptions obviously era sex offender

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unit child molester things like that don't go away and so violent crime stay

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on your record but if you

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smoke some pot or %ah grew grew marijuana plants in college

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i thinkI how to get a second chance actually as

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Regional Trial smoke some pot left

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selectively say that I think his

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second question I am just come expound on that

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please explain your federal federal medical marijuana bill

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and the role the federal government and Drug Policy

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and there's another bill we introduced this week with Cory Booker I and Kirsten

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Gillibrand a Democrat from my new york

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and what we do is we try to say that the federal government more

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interfere with States who want to have our a medical marijuana

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and wonder things we've done is their schedules for drug schedule one two and

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three

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threes pretty much most everything that too is somewhat restriction one

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is almost impossible even most physicians can prescribe schedule 1

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will marijuana schedule once a week at research it

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and I'll most doctors can prescribe it

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a given couple examples of people who do use marijuana

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for a benefit mathematically are mild

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political directors father in law as Ms he's confined to a wheelchair

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and when he lived in Arizona he is to you star Kat X

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really have II doctor would prescribe boxing cotton and

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Hidaka and narcotics and they sedated I mean really didn't like the feel from my

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body as a lot of pain and

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and discomfort with a mass many Drive Medical Marijuana anything like it

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helped him and helped him with his appetite helped him to do with his

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disease

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but eisenberg you can't do it so I think there are reasons to allow doctors to

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prescribe it more easily

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allow more research to happen there's also appears some kids have so many

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seizures this is not controlled lead like a hundred to learn seizures a day

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their brain doesn't develop and they remain mentally stunted from the

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seizures

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most these kids are on all the traditional seizure medications

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medications that they're not talking about cannabis oil without the THC

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to actually personally take the THC which is a the park to make sure yet how

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high they take it out and do this

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oil to the kids and some are showing some benefits does it

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me to study and he should be studying but I

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I think parents are within on separate seizure medications ought to have a

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chance but i think is a great job of alerting the public

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I don't know if your congress is ready to pass it yes but

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the public I think reading actionable as your president how would you

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all support US gas and oil and instead of importing it from other countries

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I like the supposition on the question

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I am you know one way to be independent and have a

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growing energy industry in our country is we have to compete with everybody

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around the world

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and one other ways were not being very well as our taxes are higher

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iranian former Miss harm so for example our business tax the corporate income

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tax our country's 35 percent

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in Ireland its twelfth in england it's twenty

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and France's somewhere between 20 and 25 close to here has a lower business tax

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than we do

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then you bring in the regulatory burden of what we have on our energy and

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industry and we have a greater regulatory burdens our tax burden to our

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regulatory burden tire

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arm even with all that we're doing pretty well with energy production

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production production the fracking revolution

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we now are virtually we're getting to the point where now the question is

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more sure you were to the law saying we can export because we're actually now

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where we can actually act for oil

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there was a law passed in nineteen seventy saying we weren't allowed to

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for now we were talking about actually I was becoming such a leader that we

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export

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action thank you what are your thoughts on the progress of

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african-americans in this country role

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what you do as president accused continue progress

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I'm you know I think sometimes

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we think we haven't gone very far when I think we've come a long way

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and I say we collectively obviously it's not me but I think said

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we got rid of all of the the legal process most to the law and the legal

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problems legal separation

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in and we did in the sixties and took a while for that take effect and transmit

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to our schools

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but I think really the problems are so much shorter legal separation earlier

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but we still has ordered a factor

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so this dish you are which means of the law and then there's two factor which

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means is still a fact that there's

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a significant segregation in our society

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arm I think it's economic opportunity

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and criminal justice the one thing government can do is we need to make

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criminal justice more fair

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when the I didn't mention is which is also promises and like I say black white

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or brown promised the poverty problem is

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many people %ah can't keep up with their child for payments for instead of like

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working out a schedule we send him back to prison to action like debtors prisons

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with all these things that are on just about our criminal system

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that could be changed I think that's the biggest thing that work on spy criminal

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justice

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just

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make the the correlation obviously with criminal justice reform economic

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opportunity

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talked about energy to expand on just a little bit

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more the economic freedom zones on this year polls

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what is it gonna take to make that a reality if you will in just a little bit

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a clearer

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time zone what's the benefit for individuals

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small businesses and I'll show you a municipality's

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self those it resolves I think if you look at the practical politics

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this and say water what does anybody right now offering Detroit

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0 not one person has one solution out on the table

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they might mean some Democrats who say let's just give them a billion dollars

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we don't have a billion dollars we have to borrow from China to give it to on

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I we borrow a million dollars a minute I'm think there is a democrat

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legislative proposal for Detroit but I am a proposal for Detroit

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from Baltimore for law for all big cities when you dramatically lower the

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tax rates

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you don't affect the local infrastructure cuz like your police your

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fire your road

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it's your lives all this stuff you pay for through local taxes

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but think about it if you will house at a Detroit

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you're the president at the bank and I tell ya give you a five-percent income

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tax person's

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39 percent income tax if you moved to Detroit my guess is you might consider

35:49

doing is cheese is huge bonus to the initial do it we also have hiring

35:54

incentives in it

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in that if you need to get those tax breaks

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you have to hire from I think 25 share people have to be

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live in the neighborhood traces actual arm

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any other questions any other

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followup questions to speak a little louder she could

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way

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now lil

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now I'm wat tam

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he play weight is among them

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it's true love everything on the margin that we don't have money for most things

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like yesterday I

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people coming in wanting more money for diabetes says a lot of good causes out

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and they want more money for

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but I tell them what I tell everybody else if you have a cause that you

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believe then

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you have to figure out where the money is going to come from so you would have

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to cut spending

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and I'm willing to do that also so for example

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a

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said repeatedly I'm that before i touch one penny for any had a safety net

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I'll cut every penny of corporate welfare essays

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yessir

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following the first said into the senate you talked about

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looking at eliminating cutting spending by $500 billion

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the whole world teen years five years or two years

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right could you speak a little bit of both more

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the when you look in a in this is i think is a good point because some

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people think well republicans are for no government Republicans are for cutting

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everything they'll be nothing left out the form

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and that's not really true were mostly for not spending money that doesn't come

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and so when people say you're not for any government I say well

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i'm for three trillion dollars worth that much comes in that's all we are

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just bad

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but we spend 3.8 trillion we bring in $3 trillion so this is huge disparity

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between what comes in one goes out

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and within the three trillion you have you have to make some distinctions on

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what you do

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the Department of Commerce is thirty forty million dollars

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I cut it all tomorrow I like your name but notice it II thing no one would

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notice it was gone most

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tomorrow commerce is actually going to rich corporations

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there's twenty billion dollars worth a direct welfare to rich corporations on

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average urs about

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over 200 million dollars on average about forty or fifty

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big corporations so you could eliminate at others

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quite a bit to a lot of different departments they could you know and I'm

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not sure you noticed a difference

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within the department education for Calado now

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up thirty forty years now but the vast majority that could go back to the state

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level

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and would not be done in Washington

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import-export bank would be a part of that is why not call

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call that corporate welfare you're not alone okay bus