Oct 27, 2015
BENGHAZI HEARING -
TREY
GOWDY QUESTIONS HILLARY CLINTON
PART 1
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that he did some work for my husband
when he worked for the Clinton
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Foundation that's that's threat he
worked for Media Matters that I'm sure
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did he work for correct the wrecker
I'm sure you did when you were asked about
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Sony Blumenthal you say he was an
old friend who sent you unsolicited emails
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which you passed on and some
instances because you wanted to hear from people
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outside what you called the bubble
we will ignore for a second whether or not
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Sidney Blumenthal is outside the
bubble but I do when I asked you about a couple
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of those other comments because what
you left out was that he was an old friend
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who knew absolutely nothing about
Libya was critical of President Obama and
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others do you work with love to send
you political and image advice had business
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interests in Libya which she not
only alerted YouTube solicited your help for
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and you often forwarded his emails
but usually only after you had acted out any
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identifiers so nobody knew where the
information was coming from what does
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the word unsolicited mean to you it
means that I did not ask him to send me
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the information that
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the end as I have previously stated
some of it I found interesting some of it I
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did not some of it i forward it some
of it I did not I did not know anything
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about any business interests I
thought that just as I said previously newspaper
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articles journalists of which she is
one a former journalist had some interesting
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insights and so we you know we took
them on board and evaluated them and some
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were helpful and others were not
we're gonna get all the point you just made
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but i wanna start with your your
public comment that these emails were
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unsolicited you wrote to him another
keeper thanks and pls keep on coming to
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readings from Kabul and thanks for
keeping this stuff coming any other info
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question mark what are you hearing
now question mark got it will follow up
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anything else to convey question
mark now what is interesting because that was
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the very email worms Blumenthal's
asking you to intervene on behalf of a business
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deal that he was pursuing in Libya
what did you mean by what are you hearing now
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congressman they started out
unsolicited and and as I said some were of interest
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I passed them on and some were not
so he continued to provide me information that
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was made available to him I don't
want to parse words and don't want to be
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hyper technical cuz it's not a huge
point but it is an important point you
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didn't say they started off
unsolicited
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you said they were on sale they were
unsolicited but obviously I did respond
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to some of them well and I showed
him anything else to convey what are you
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tomorrow night will meet with TMC
leader so this an additional info useful so how
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electricity or Blackberry coverage
posed arranged all had to resort to my new
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iPad let me know if you receive this
will talk about the new iPad and a
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little bit years knowing this report
is in part a response to your questions as
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an email from him to you this is
this report is in part a response to your
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questions will be further
information and the next day if you're the one
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asking him for information how does
that square with the definition of
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unsolicited I said it began that
way
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mr chairman and I will add that both
Chris Stevens and Gene Cretz found some
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of the information interesting far
more than I could because they knew some of
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the characters who are being
mentioned and they were the ones that kind of
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persons with the expertise that I
asked to evaluate to see whether there was any
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useful information we're going to
get to that in a second now before you give
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mister blumenthal too much credit
you agree he didn't write a single one of
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those cables are minimized I'm sorry
we didn't write a single one of those
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I don't know who wrote that he's the
one who sent them to me what would you be
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surprised to know that not a single
one of those was from health I don't know
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where he got the information that he
did you did you ask your sending me very
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specific detailed intelligence what
is your source that sounds like a pretty
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good question I did learn later that
he was talking to or sharing information
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from former American intelligence
officials who run those cables I don't
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recall I don't know mister chairman
you had this information pass on to others
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but at least one occasion you asked
on this happening can you print without any
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identifiers why would you want his
name removed because I thought that it would
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be more important just look at the
substance and to make a determination as
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to whether or not there
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linked to it why don't people have a
right to know the source of the
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information so they can determine
credibility as you just said the source
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of the information that was you
didn't know that madam secretary that's what
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you just said no no mister
chairman
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I knew that I knew that he didn't
have the resources to provide that
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information I knew he was getting it
from somewhere else whether they lists
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he knew others in washington it
could have been a variety of if you're if
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you're going to determine
credibility don't wanna know the source
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well it wasn't credibility so much
as trying to follow the thread that were
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mentioned about individuals and as I
already stated some of it was useful and
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some of it was not well did the
president know that mr. Blumenthal was
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advising you he wasn't advising me
and you know he was your most prolific email
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or that we have found on the
subjects of Libyan Benghazi that's because I didn't
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do most of my work on I'm not
challenging that about him secretary I
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am not challenging that all I'm
telling you is the documents show he was your
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most prolific email or on Libya
Benghazi and my question to you is to the
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president the same white house that
said you can't handle that can re did he know
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that he was advising he was not
advising me and I have no reason to have ever
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mentioned her know that the
president knew that I don't want to draw your
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tensions who an email about Libya
from mr. Blumenthal you dated April 2011 and
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will be exhibit 67 this is this is
informative should we pass on and at em
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parenthetical unidentified to the
white house if you wanna pass something onto
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the white house why would you take
off the identifier because it was important
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to evaluate the information and from
a lot of intelligence that I have
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certainly reviewed over the years
you often don't have the
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the intelligence you look at the
intelligence and you try to determine
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whether or not it is credible
whether it can be followed up on well I'm going to
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accept the fact that you and I come
from different backgrounds cause I can tell
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you that an unsourced comment could
never be under dandy courtroom you have
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not talking about courtrooms were
talking about intelligence and we're
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talking about credibility and the
ability to assess a source is and
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whether or not that source has ever
been to Libya knows anything about Libya
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where has this is all of which would
be important if you were going to determine
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the credibility which i think is why
you probably took his information what you
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sent to the white house but here's
another possible explanation that may
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give us a sense of wide maybe the
White House did when you first place in one
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email he wrote this about the
president's secretary defence I in for a
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gauge problem is losing an internal
debate Tyler and by the way Tiger solder
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Drumheller back to actually authored
the cables that you got from mister
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blumenthal Tyler knows him well but
and says he's a mean vicious little I can
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say the word but he did this is a an
email for Blumenthal to you about the
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president's secretary of defense and
here's another one with the email to you
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about president national security
adviser Tom Donilon is battling rhetoric
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about narratives on the phone
briefing reporters on march the 10th as inspired
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derision among far and serious
foreign policy analyst both here and abroad
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here's another one from what you say
is your old friends and even with all this
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is a quote from him I would say
Obama and by the way he left the president